# Rugosa friualana - moschata or pepo? **URL:** \ **Category:** Cucurbits\ **Tags:** cucurbita-moschata, cucurbita-pepo\ **Created:** [October 15, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/rugosa-friualana-moschata-or-pepo/3034 "2024-10-15T20:09:54Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 6\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![malterod](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/malterod/32/1391_2.png) [@malterod](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/malterod)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 8:09pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/rugosa-friualana-moschata-or-pepo/3034/1 "2024-10-15T20:09:54Z")
I got squash seed from @Logan this year to grow out. The variety is called Rugosa friulana. On the seed packets in Italy, they call them [zuchetta](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/zuchetta-landrace-very-long-necked-unripe-moschata-tromboncino-type/1671) and mark them C. moschata. Vivi tells me her Rugosa friulana crosses with pepo and believes the variety is actually just a C. pepo. The seed she gave me were supposedly a Rugosa friulana x unnamed pepo. When I look at the fruit of Rugosa friulana online, the fruits look similar to warted crookneck pepos. The seed I have in front of me look a lot like pepo too. Those of you who know your botany, what say you? ![298F52D4-B05A-4E4D-A4C6-A5D8A63AE8BC](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/landracegardening/original/2X/c/c57c7871c373cb6508560a5934f100f091784f54.jpeg) Here’s an image of the fruits I harvested. I believe the fruits on top might be from Vivi’s seed. ![IMG20241010132601](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/landracegardening/original/2X/2/29a738b4b09449512a4c56e0fd5cd7b153ccc138.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![markwkidd](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/markwkidd/32/297_2.png) [@markwkidd](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/markwkidd)\ **Post date:** [October 15, 2024, 8:46pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/rugosa-friualana-moschata-or-pepo/3034/2 "2024-10-15T20:46:35Z")
I’ve spent a few hours looking at different photos of this variety online because I was interested in the same question. I suggest looking at the flowers and leaves when you are forming your impression. They look like C. pepo flowers and leaves to me. Edit: I’m so interested because I am attracted to wild and primitive squash types. I was hoping it would turn out to be moschata, but it does still seem to me like an early domestic line for pepo ssp ovifera. ---
**Author:** ![VeggieSavage](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/veggiesavage/32/3383_2.png) [@VeggieSavage](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/VeggieSavage)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:00am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/rugosa-friualana-moschata-or-pepo/3034/3 "2024-10-16T02:00:00Z")
> [@malterod](#): > > When I look at the fruit of Rugosa friulana online, the fruits look similar to warted crookneck pepos. The seed I have in front of me look a lot like pepo too. Those of you who know your botany, what say you? Yea those fruits Definitely look like _Cucurbita pepo_. Techically all Squash ID traits are fluid because every species is crossable! Here are my notes about Squash ID, this will help you! ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/landracegardening/original/2X/c/c64fa2949181316a6ba3d60ad79c8733160dc4cc.png) Also _C. pepo_ consists of 2 subspecies (It came from _C. pepo_ x _C. texana_), thus you can still see some _C. texana_ traits within pepo. ![image](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/landracegardening/original/2X/f/f36043674d4c5ba02fd5b5214b9b1d9f7df4f633.jpeg) Did the Squash in question have good tasting fruits? perhaps we could trade? ---
**Author:** ![Ashley\_Lutz](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/ashley_lutz/32/10015_2.png) [@Ashley\_Lutz](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Ashley_Lutz)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:43am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/rugosa-friualana-moschata-or-pepo/3034/4 "2024-10-16T02:43:47Z")
I bought seed for rugosa friulana a few years ago from baker creek and have been growing them each summer since. Baker Creek labels them as a C. Pepo. [https://www.rareseeds.com/squash-summer-rugosa-friulana](https://www.rareseeds.com/squash-summer-rugosa-friulana) I would agree with this, the plants looked just like my other c. Pepo zucchini plants. ---
**Author:** ![UnicornEmily](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/unicornemily/32/530_2.png) [@UnicornEmily](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/UnicornEmily)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 2:45am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/rugosa-friualana-moschata-or-pepo/3034/5 "2024-10-16T02:45:45Z")
I concur. Those stems definitely look like pepo stems to me. ---
**Author:** ![malterod](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/malterod/32/1391_2.png) [@malterod](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/malterod)\ **Post date:** [October 16, 2024, 8:14am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/rugosa-friualana-moschata-or-pepo/3034/6 "2024-10-16T08:14:54Z")
I feel more confident about it being a pepo, reading your posts, thanks. @VeggieSavage - I’m in Europe, so trading seed across the Atlantic is a bit difficult at the moment. I haven’t tasted the fruit yet, but the friend I got it from it is one of her favorites.