# Trading Tree/Shrub Seeds Fukuoka Style **URL:** \ **Category:** Sharing Seeds\ **Tags:** fruit-trees\ **Created:** [September 10, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927 "2024-09-10T22:08:20Z")\ **Posts on this page:** 20\ **Page:** 1
**Author:** ![VeggieSavage](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/veggiesavage/32/3383_2.png) [@VeggieSavage](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/VeggieSavage)\ **Post date:** [September 10, 2024, 10:08pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/1 "2024-09-10T22:08:20Z")
Originally I was thinking why can’t we include tree seeds into the Fukuoka grab bag mix? But now I think it makes more sense to have a tree seed specific fukuoka grab mix & maybe spread that out to hot weather vs cold tolerant trees? Regardless since I started this topic, what kinds of tree seeds would y’all like to trade? Wild Trees, Fruit Trees, Shurbs, ect? Here’s some tree/shrub seeds I’m thinking we could trade - Raspberries & Blackberries (_Rubus spp._) - Rose Seeds (_Rosa spp._) - Apples & Crabapples (_Malus spp._) - Pears (_Pyrus spp._) - Juneberry (_Amelanchier spp._) - Hawthorne (_Crataegus spp._) - Aronia (_Aronia spp._) - Peaches (_Prunus persica_) - Plums (_Prunus domestica_) - Wild & Domesticated Cherries (_Punus spp._) - Persimmon seeds (_Diospyros spp._) - Spicebush (_Lindera benzoin_) - Sycamore Seeds (_Platanus occidentails_) - Maple seeds (_Acer spp._) - Tulip Tree seeds (_Liriodendron tulipifera_) - Birch Seeds (_Betula spp._) - Pine Seeds (_Pinus spp._) - Spruce Seeds (_Picea spp._) - Douglas Fir Seeds (_Pseudostuga menziesii_) - Eastern Hemlock (_Tsuga canadensis_) - Jujubee (_Ziziphus jujuba_) - Pawpaw (_Asimina triloba_) - Black Tulpeo (_Nyssa Sylvatica_) - Golden & Green Kiwi (_Actinida chinensis_) - Kiwi Berry (_Actinida arguta_) - Muscadine Grape (_Vitis rotundifolia_) - Wild Grape seeds (_Vitis spp._) - Silverberry (_Eleagnus pungens_) - Kousa Dogwood (_Cornus kousa_) - Mulberry (_Morus alba_) - Nannyberry (_Viburnum lentago_) - Black Locust (_Robinia pseudoacacia_) - Eastern Redbud (_Cercis canadensis_) - Honey Locust (_Gleditsia triacanthos_) - Sumac (_Rhus typhina_) - Hackberry (_Celtis occidentalis_) - Medjool Date Palm (_Pheonix dactylifera_) - Mexican Guava (_Psidium guajava_) - Hibiscus (_Hibiscus spp._) - Pomegranate (_Punica granatum_) - Blueberry Seeds (_Vaccinium corymbosum_) Any other suggestions? ---
**Author:** ![JinTX](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jintx/32/20162_2.png) [@JinTX](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/JinTX)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:53am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/2 "2024-09-11T00:53:17Z")
Citrus is another I have seen mentioned a lot. Moringa Mesquite Yucca Opuntia Goumi Almond Olive ---
**Author:** ![Kimzy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/kimzy/32/14489_2.png) [@Kimzy](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Kimzy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 1:12am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/3 "2024-09-11T01:12:59Z")
Yes! Definitely distinguish between temperature climates…and there needs to be a seed steward too…Everything I can send in grows in zone 10. Moringa Dates Citrus Guaje (acacia) Leucaena leucocephala Quava Palo verde ---
**Author:** ![VeggieSavage](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/veggiesavage/32/3383_2.png) [@VeggieSavage](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/VeggieSavage)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 12:14pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/4 "2024-09-11T12:14:29Z")
You’ve got some epic seeds! I’d love to get some Moringa, Yucca, Opuntia, especially Goumi! Goumi has been a wild edible tree I’ve been searching for quite some time. @Kimzy Oh wow, you have Guaje seeds? I’ve seen those at the Mexican Grocery Store before it closed in my area. Moringa is epic! What kinds of Guava do you have? I also have Mexican Guava from the Grocery Store. ---
**Author:** ![Kimzy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/kimzy/32/14489_2.png) [@Kimzy](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Kimzy)\ **Post date:** [September 11, 2024, 3:54pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/5 "2024-09-11T15:54:12Z")
The guaje trees are prolific here as long as they get a good watering monthly. The guava is white fleshed, I had a couple buckets of fruit a couple years back and saved the seed, but I need to do a germination test…I dont know how long to expect the seeds to be viable. The quaje is always loaded with seed and hundreds of sprouting seeds all around. The ducks love to eat the greens. ![20240911_084747](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/landracegardening/original/2X/b/bf8f0feb3f3af5dba6f1c0ef54617848b617e41f.jpeg) ![20240911_084800](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/landracegardening/original/2X/6/658689fcc9f4a0c4b04891405d954172696620f0.jpeg) ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Irving](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jerry_irving/32/9548_2.png) [@Jerry\_Irving](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Jerry_Irving)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 1:24am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/6 "2024-09-12T01:24:16Z")
I think this is a great idea. I have some of the following: - Moringa oleifera - Tamarind (Tamarindus indica) - Honey Locust (Gleditsia triacanthos) - Yew Plum Pine (Podocarpus macrophyllus) - Wild Black Cherry (Prunus serotina) - Pacara Earpod Tree (Enterolobium contortisiliquum) - Some maple tree species (I think it is Acer rubrum) - Wild Muscadine Grape (Vitis rotundifolia) - Bagpod (Sesbania vesicaria) - Southern Live Oak (Quercus virginiana) - Loquat (Eriobotrya japonica) Jerry Irving ---
**Author:** ![JinTX](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jintx/32/20162_2.png) [@JinTX](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/JinTX)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 1:37am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/7 "2024-09-12T01:37:55Z")
Do you have a use for Sesbania vesicaria? I assume it is nitrogen fixing, I have used it as a chop & drop. It’s a cool plant. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Irving](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jerry_irving/32/9548_2.png) [@Jerry\_Irving](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Jerry_Irving)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 2:32am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/8 "2024-09-12T02:32:55Z")
Yes, it does fix nitrogen. It is very heat and drought tolerant. It produces a lot of biomass very quickly. And it is also an instant shade plant. This year I used it to shade my strawberries. I also use it for compost. I noticed that it attracts a lot of beneficial insects when it flowers. Jerry Irving ---
**Author:** ![JinTX](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jintx/32/20162_2.png) [@JinTX](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/JinTX)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 3:38am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/9 "2024-09-12T03:38:43Z")
That’s great. I’ve had similar experience with it. I’ve also found if you continuously chop all the side “branches” it will just keep growing taller, mine got up to around 15’. I was very surprised how adaptable they are to soil types and conditions. I collected my seeds from a very isolated, sandy-rocky central TX location growing waters edge near a natural spring. Planted them in my heavy clay with zero irrigation and they grew like crazy. ---
**Author:** ![JinTX](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jintx/32/20162_2.png) [@JinTX](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/JinTX)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:08am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/10 "2024-09-12T04:08:44Z")
Goldenball Leadtree (Leucaena retusa) is another one to add to the list. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Irving](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jerry_irving/32/9548_2.png) [@Jerry\_Irving](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Jerry_Irving)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 4:29am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/11 "2024-09-12T04:29:19Z")
I also like the “Vegetable Hummingbird” tree (Sesbania grandiflora). I don’t have it, but I would like to. [Eat The Weeds says:](https://www.eattheweeds.com/?s=Sesbania+grandiflora) “The shrub’s long narrow pods are eaten as a vegetable, similar in use to string beans. The seeds are fermented into a tempeh turi. Young leaves and shoots are eaten in salads or as a pot herb or in soups and stews. Its flowers are eaten raw in salads, boiled, fried or use in curries, stews and soups. They taste like mushrooms and are rich in iron and sugar, read sweet.” Jerry Irving ---
**Author:** ![VeggieSavage](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/veggiesavage/32/3383_2.png) [@VeggieSavage](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/VeggieSavage)\ **Post date:** [September 12, 2024, 12:08pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/12 "2024-09-12T12:08:19Z")
> [@Kimzy](#): > > The guava is white fleshed, I had a couple buckets of fruit a couple years back and saved the seed, but I need to do a germination test…I dont know how long to expect the seeds to be viable. That’s Incredible! And just like all the other Legume trees, it’s nitrogen fixer thus making it a good chop & drop crop for feeding the soil but plus the immature pods are also edible. Have you tried the immature pods? Idk how to cook them. > [@Kimzy](#): > > The quaje is always loaded with seed and hundreds of sprouting seeds all around. The ducks love to eat the greens. That tells me your seeds will germinate just fine as the test has already been done. @Jerry_Irving You’ve got some amazing Tree Seeds aswell! How do you eat the Yew Plum pine (_Podocarpus macrophyllus_), does it taste good? I would love to get some Moringa, Loquat & Wild Muscadine seeds! I saved the ones from the grocery store. Message me, I’m sure there’s plenty we could trade! @Jerry_Irving my guy 😂, you also read Eat The Weeds too!? That’s awesome! I love dat guy, such a wealth of info! I’ve learned So many incredible Wild Edible plants from that guy. ---
**Author:** ![Kimzy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/kimzy/32/14489_2.png) [@Kimzy](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Kimzy)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 12:34am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/13 "2024-09-13T00:34:36Z")
Ive only eaten the quaje tree’s green seeds inside the pods…they have a slight garlic flavor and have the size and texture of pumpkin seeds. ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Irving](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jerry_irving/32/9548_2.png) [@Jerry\_Irving](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Jerry_Irving)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 4:28am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/14 "2024-09-13T04:28:42Z")
> [@VeggieSavage](#): > > How do you eat the Yew Plum pine (_Podocarpus macrophyllus_), does it taste good? The entire plant is poisonous except for the fruit-like arils. On a good day the arils taste like blueberries, but right after it rains they are mushy and bland. More information can be found on the [Eat The Weeds](https://www.eattheweeds.com/?s=Podocarpus+macrophyllus) website. > [@VeggieSavage](#): > > I would love to get some Moringa, Loquat & Wild Muscadine seeds! I saved the ones from the grocery store. Message me, I’m sure there’s plenty we could trade! I am sorry, but I currently don’t have seeds for those plants. My Loquat trees should produce fruit sometime this fall. My moringa trees should produce seeds sometime in January of next year. As for the Muscadine, it grows wild in my neighborhood. I only noticed its presence this year, so I am still watching it to see if it will produce fruit. If the plants are all male, then they likely won’t make any fruit at all. I will let you know what I find out about the grapes. I am sorry to disappoint you, and I hope you don’t mind waiting to get those tree seeds. I will let you know as soon as I am able to trade with you. Jerry Irving ---
**Author:** ![JinTX](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jintx/32/20162_2.png) [@JinTX](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/JinTX)\ **Post date:** [September 13, 2024, 2:17pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/15 "2024-09-13T14:17:43Z")
Dealing with many of these plants we have listed it will be good to keep in mind that seed availability will be very dependant on the seasons growing conditions and being perennials there will also likely be less total seed available even in a good season. ---
**Author:** ![VeggieSavage](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/veggiesavage/32/3383_2.png) [@VeggieSavage](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/VeggieSavage)\ **Post date:** [September 14, 2024, 11:32am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/16 "2024-09-14T11:32:39Z")
> [@Jerry\_Irving](#): > > The entire plant is poisonous except for the fruit-like arils. On a good day the arils taste like blueberries, but right after it rains they are mushy and bland. More information can be found on the [Eat The Weeds](https://www.eattheweeds.com/?s=Podocarpus+macrophyllus) website. Oh wow! They look a lot like plums, kind of blue! I see why it’s called Yew Plum Pine. Blueberry tasting arils sounds amazing, gonna want to harvest at as soon as it ripens. > [@Jerry\_Irving](#): > > My Loquat trees should produce fruit sometime this fall. Bet! As most pome fruits do in fall. Amelanchier is the exception & it’s genetics hybridized with Loquats can get Loquats to fruit earilier. How does your Loquat fruit trees taste? Are all Loquats just yellow or do other colors exist too? > [@Jerry\_Irving](#): > > I will let you know what I find out about the grapes. Thank you! Is there anything you’d like me to get you? > [@Jerry\_Irving](#): > > I am sorry to disappoint you, and I hope you don’t mind waiting to get those tree seeds. I will let you know as soon as I am able to trade with you. No worries, we can trade when everything is ready, I’ll message you. We can take our time. > [@JinTX](#): > > Dealing with many of these plants we have listed it will be good to keep in mind that seed availability will be very dependant on the seasons growing conditions and being perennials there will also likely be less total seed available even in a good season. Good point, especially since perennials don’t have to make their seeds the next year unlike annuals. Except Blackberries/Raspberries, those puppies produces TONS of seeds 🤣 ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Irving](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jerry_irving/32/9548_2.png) [@Jerry\_Irving](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Jerry_Irving)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 2:27am UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/17 "2024-09-15T02:27:10Z")
> [@VeggieSavage](#): > > How does your Loquat fruit trees taste? Are all Loquats just yellow or do other colors exist too? It tastes sweet and a little acidic. I find its flavor pleasant. Loquat fruit ranges in color from yellow to orange. > [@VeggieSavage](#): > > No worries, we can trade when everything is ready, I’ll message you. We can take our time. I’ll review your list and get back with you. Thank you… Jerry Irving ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Irving](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jerry_irving/32/9548_2.png) [@Jerry\_Irving](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Jerry_Irving)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 7:40pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/18 "2024-09-15T19:40:54Z")
Today I found this fruit growing wild by the lake. ![IMG_0672](https://canada1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/uploads/landracegardening/original/2X/2/2d7258c49e0d5abe4b8a12860877d1150b98e64f.jpeg) I think it is some kind of eggplant relative. This fruit was growing on a stem that was covered in many small thorns. Can anyone identify this species? Jerry Irving ---
**Author:** ![Jerry\_Irving](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/jerry_irving/32/9548_2.png) [@Jerry\_Irving](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Jerry_Irving)\ **Post date:** [September 15, 2024, 11:20pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/19 "2024-09-15T23:20:14Z")
I think it is Solanum viarum. Does anyone happen to want some of its seeds? Jerry Irving ---
**Author:** ![Kimzy](https://yyz1.discourse-cdn.com/flex031/user_avatar/goingtoseed.discourse.group/kimzy/32/14489_2.png) [@Kimzy](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/u/Kimzy)\ **Post date:** [September 16, 2024, 4:11pm UTC](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927/20 "2024-09-16T16:11:34Z")
Yes, worth noting too we should support GTS and submit seed to thru the distribution point. Afterall, we would not have this opportunity to share seed without this community. I may add some tree seeds to the serendipity box, but I’m really going to focus on supporting GTS and sending seed for the community distribution. So if we have enough tree and shrub seeds, we need a seed steward. Any takers? Maybe next year would be a starting point to initiate seed increases? And should we focus on varieties that only produce edible fruits? There was another thread for mostly apples… The quava seed I had saved may be dead…apparently its only viable for less then a year. They are small seeds like eggplant seed. I’ll still complete a germination test but Im not hopeful. [Next page](https://goingtoseed.discourse.group/t/trading-tree-shrub-seeds-fukuoka-style/2927.md?page=2)