DTG "Zombie Pumpkins"

Anyone else buy some of the David The Good “Zombie Pumpkin” seeds?

These are a cross between his seminole pumpkins and a rare black colored Caribbean landrace pumpkin he brought back from their time living on the island of Grenada.

Here’s the etsy listing from his daughters store:

https://www.etsy.com/listing/4358991454/zombie-pumpkins-limited-rare-variety?ref=yr_purchases

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I would have loved to Buy some but they don’t ship to the Netherlands.

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Hopefully we can get some there eventually!

Has David the Good talked about those specifically somewhere? They look really special and I’ve never heard of those before.

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He’s talked about the cross he calls the zombie pumpkins in many of his latest videos.

He also talked more about the original black pumpkins in a few videos (probably last year). He had been trying to grow those original seeds but they ended up accidentally crossing the with the seminoles.

He has said out of the zombie pumpkin’s they have eaten they have tasted better than either of the parents.

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Here’s a post about the original black pumpkins from his blog:

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That’s so cool thank you! I’m gonna look into it :blush:.

@Tanjaeskildsen and I in Europe have some seeds from dark green to brown flesh in moschata, most originating from Tanja’s crosses with a Seminole too, some of Joseph’s butternuts, and Ayote pumpkin, which seems to be a Guatemalan landrace. They look rrrrreally nice and are so sweet. Only problem for most is that they are quite long season fruiting.

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I just bought some. I’ve actually had them sitting in my cart, haha. I bought that along with the landrace watermelons. I’m excited b/c I’m also in AL. I’m going to have so much fun this next summer. Just wish I had more land!

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I waited all year to get those watermelon seeds!

Last year they repeatedly sold out right after becoming available.

Kind of disappointed as I imagined DTG pumpkins were dark coloured inside… anyway they look terrific!

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Dark inside would be cool. I wonder if there are any varieties selected for that and how dark or which colors are possible.

The green flesh varieties are the darkest I have seen.

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I haven’t seen him talk about if they have been selecting for specific traits with the Zombie squash, or the seminole squash either. Aside from survivability.

You could always get some of the seed and select for darker flesh.

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I think right now they are just dealing with acres of feral pumpkins :laughing:

I’m not sure what they will be doing with them long term but in the latest video he mentioned the flavor being really good but not knowing if it will be consistent in future generations since these are basically F1 of the two pumpkins.

So I assume they will be selecting for eating quality.

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At the end of that long post I showed some: Direct seed exchange among EU members 2024-2025 - #21 by ThomasPicard

You got the green fleshed and some really brown, all originating from Tanja’s populations initially. The Yolk Color Fan allows you to assess how dark those really were. Breeders use that to assess carotene in squash usually as a way to assess more global antioxydant properties, so to say “nutrient density” relatively to that criteria.

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I would love to grow these! Tricky to get the seeds to europe though😅

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How did they perform for you this year? I had zero green fleshed so will be adding some pure green into the mix next year

Not opened yet!

But I have to say that I’m happy to have kept seeds from last year, as they were on a very poor soil, and yields were dire : about 15 fruits max on a 150 plants plot.

I’ll see their fleshes in a few weeks though, and maybe put them next year in a more fertile ground.

I wonder if the fact that you found zero dark fleshed pumpkins does not signal recessive genes… trying to get my head around what it would really means in terms of selection for that trait, in an evolutionary population, a.k.a. modern landrace. First reaction would be to keep the seeds of each brown or green fleshed pumpkin apart, sow assess them apart in next year (+1), to replant in +2 generation in a separated plot only those having showed up dark flesh in +1 generation. Or self all of these in +1 generation, discard the not dark and then replant the dark one in +2 generation. More time consuming at +1 generation but going faster forward. All that only if we want to stabilize a population around that trait.

Will tell you what I obtain at harvest.

And about taste how is / was this filial generation?

There are several factors:

1/ I didn’t plant as many pumpkins as last year.

2/ I only planted seeds of the best tasting which were mostly hybrids with dark orange skin and just a few perfect greens.

3/ I relied on pure green pumpkin seeds from other growers to add pure green into the mix, but the bought seeds were very flat, I think they had been picked too immature.

4/ Sowing fail. I sowed most of my pumpkins in a row that they simply didn’t like. it kept overgrowing in grass, then self seeded molokhia, then a problem with leaky irrigation, where they actually got too much water, which is not good on my pure clay soil. I also had to resow 3 times as snails ate the seedlings, which meant by the third time my prime seeds were mostly gone. They kept getting eaten and by that time I had broken my foot, which set me back 6 weeks. The only survivors from that row where 2 hybrid maxima/mochata from you!

In the end I did a late heavy sowing of mixed seeds in a different plot and by now I would have harvested a good amount, but I think rats or other animals have gotten in there, and they drill to the flesh to get to the seeds - so only a few intact pumpkins around the edges.

I had a few self seeding pumpkins around, so I have gotten maybe 20 or so to eat, but none of them look like the green fleshed, but they do look like hybrids.

I havent tasted that many yet, but I can tell my the shape and colour that they probably wont be green inside. There might be some browns but I doubt it.

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Here is my -supposedly- “dark fleshed” harvest, as from last year’s fruits. Some coming from your 2024 seeds, some harvested in my patch from your 2023 seeds and others I had sown first time in 2024. Smallish harvest, but in the worst ground

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