My first experience growing wheat

I tried growing winter wheat as a winter crop last year. Here’s the experience I had.

I sowed it thickly into my garden beds, along with blue mustard and Austrian winter peas (both of which I’ve been growing through the winter as food crops for several years now).

I got . . . wheat. Just wheat. Neither of the other two. I kept on waiting to see the other two, but I didn’t.

I also sowed the wheat within a garlic patch. (Garlic inhibits the germination of legumes, so I plant it separately from my peas.) I got . . . wheat. Just wheat. I kept on waiting to see garlic shoots, but I didn’t.

All winter long, I had lots of grass sprouts in the beds. In spring, I started to see seed heads forming – and all of them were weed grasses. :unamused_face: I was tempted to pull out all the grass stems, but I decided to do it one at a time, in case there really was wheat mixed in with all the weed grasses that looked exactly like it. Whenever a stalk flowered and it wasn’t wheat, I painstakingly removed it. One plant at a time.

The very last kind of grass in those beds turned out to be the wheat, and I did have a lot of it! About half of the stands had been weed grasses, but half was actual wheat.

It flowered. It made lots of seed heads. I was very pleased. It took longer to ripen than I was hoping, though; around early July, I harvested the finished wheat and brought it inside. It was too late to plant summer crops like beans and squashes into the bed by that point, although I put some in anyway, just in case they would make me some seeds before frost. (They didn’t.)

And then the threshing began.

Now, I probably made the process more time-consuming than it would have been if I’d tossed them all into a pillowcase and whacked them against my driveway or something. I started out by sorting all of the heads into “I want to save this for seed” and “I want to eat this.” It was the first year of my landrace, so selecting which were the best to keep for future crops and which were best eaten was an important step. (I wound up deciding I strongly prefer awnlessness, so I selected for that as well as for larger, plumper seed heads.) Still, I would say that only added an extra two or three hours to the process.

It took me over two hundred hours to weed, harvest, thresh, and winnow all that blasted wheat.

Perhaps it would have taken only a quarter of the time if I’d been willing to accept more chaff than wheat berries in my wheat flour. But I was trying to avoid that. And fifty hours would still have been an absurd quantity of time to spend.

I tried to grind wheat berries in a blender; it made a very, very coarse flour, not good enough to make bread with. So I bought a manual grain grinder. It was way more expensive than an electric grain grinder, and it didn’t even work properly. So, extremely annoyed by this point but determined to finish the process, I bought an electric grain grinder. That worked! . . . But it’s not going to help me make flour in a grid-down long-term emergency situation.

And then I found out, three weeks after I’d made the flour, that flour made out of the entire grain only stays good for two days before the fats go rancid! :person_facepalming: Apparently “whole wheat” flour isn’t actually whole wheat; they remove the germ. The germ is the part that goes rancid rapidly (and that’s why wheat germ that is purchased has to stay in a refrigerator). Actual whole wheat flour has about a two-day shelf life. If the oil in the germ goes rancid, it’ll taste bitter and not have as much nutritional value.

(Apparently in old days, people used to need to take a sack of grain to the miller every day in order to get flour to make bread. It wasn’t something they only did once a month or whatever.)

So then I had to stick the four cups of flour I’d made into a freezer of all places, and I’m hoping it is still edible, and it didn’t go too rancid in the two or three weeks it was sitting on a shelf. Seriously.

Now, on the bright side, wheat berries don’t actually have to be ground into flour. You can just soak them and eat them whole, in the same way that grains like rice and corn are often eaten. (Or soak them and then mash them.) And whole wheat berries have an excellent shelf life. So . . . I mean . . . that’s not so bad. They’re a good addition to your food storage.

And wheat is obviously convenient to grow in industrial monocultures; if it wasn’t, it wouldn’t be cheap.

But as for growing it yourself in a small space . . . my evaluation is that it’s downright horrendous.

Apparently wheat is pretty strongly allelopathic, which is why it wouldn’t let any other winter crops grow near it.

It also looks exactly like grass weeds, which means the weeds can stay disguised for months and take up valuable bed space all that time.

It takes too long to finish ripening, and even after you harvest it, there’ll be allelopathic residue in that bed for a month afterwards, so you can’t get wheat berries and use that same bed for summer crops.

And the time taken to thresh and winnow it is absolutely appalling.

I assume the time taken to thresh and winnow it is going to be less extreme with someone who knows what they’re doing. Or who has expensive gadgets to do most of the work for them. I don’t have those gadgets, and I think most backyard gardeners won’t.

So . . . wheat was a mass monoculture in an agricultural setting? Probably great. Winter wheat doesn’t need any inputs or watering. It takes care of itself. The allelopathy seems to kill off almost all weeds except for grasses, and economics of scale mean that if you can buy big expensive machines that can do all the threshing or winnowing for you, you can get a vast quantity of wheat berries for very little effort per cup of flour.

I can see why wheat has been a staple. It’s easy to grow in very large stands that take up very large quantities of space, and if you don’t mind some other grasses growing in with it, it requires no effort at all until harvest. The threshing and winnowing are horrid, but that’s why humans have been inventing with big old machines to do that for them for thousands of years.

Probably awesome for growing at scale across very large fields.

Absolutely horrid if you have limited space and want to use it effectively to grow as much food as possible.

I’m going to keep my selected seeds, both because I went to so much effort to select them and because I may eventually be in a position where it may be more useful than I think.

But for now . . . I’m not planning to grow it again. If I have to choose between either wheat or peas, garlic, and blue mustard, the answer is incredibly obvious.

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Wow what an adventure! I’m glad you tried it so I don’t have to :sweat_smile: We gave up bread products from the grocery store a few years ago and I mill and bake all of our bread products from scratch, so I’ve been tempted to try growing the wheat too. Hearing your story, I think I’ll pass. That just doesn’t seem viable in my small garden.

About wheat going rancid in two days… I’m not sure where you read that, but it isn’t true. At a normal house temperature I would imagine you have 1-2 months and probably longer… I mill on demand and haven’t tested it beyond about a month, but I have friends who mill in batches and no one has ever mentioned their flour going rancid. What often gets repeated on the Internet is that you lose most of the nutrients in two days if the flour isn’t placed in the freezer. Freshly milled wheat is quite nutrient dense and it’s true that the vitamins do begin to oxidize after milling and you lose them over time. A couple of vitamins (I don’t have the research in front of me), you do lose a decent percentage of within a few days, but most decline slowly over a month or two.

If you’re interested in learning more about milling your own wheat, the first five episodes of Sue Becker’s podcast are absolutely fascinating about what is commercially done to our flour, the history of it, and the differences nutritionally. If you listen beyond that some of the episodes get a little far fetched with their promises, but I’ll never forget the episode (3?) on your digestive system on fiber vs your digestive system without fiber. The first episode is here in case you want to check it out: https://youtu.be/_aQWskqFHX0?is=U98NBIIfMU93o4m-

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I did winter wheat a couple of years. Just a 10x10 space that wasn’t being used for anything else. The harvest is labor intensive. The time period probably is variety specific and I suspect the allelopathy is as well. I did kamut the first year and it was ready by late May/early June. The hard red wheat was probably July but I don’t remember exactly. And yes, I did thresh by bashing the grains against the side of the house in a pillow case. :laughing:

I would guess that older varieties might be less allelopathic? Something to test, anyway. I wouldn’t suggest trying it as a staple, but if you don’t use wheat products a lot a few loaves of bread might be worth the effort.

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Oh, gosh, that would be such a relief if the flour I made wasn’t totally wasted. I still haven’t tasted it yet . . . I was planning to wait until I was in the mood to try something special, you know? It’s sitting in my freezer now after about three weeks out on the shelf, so hopefully it’ll still be okay in a few months if I feel ready to try it then.

I’ve grown wheat in the past for my chickens and just let them ‘harvest’ the wheat themselves. I have an area prepared to plant some this year because my daughter wants to have a go at growing it for flour. I don’t have hopes it will be easy :joy: . Can you tell me about this blue mustard you mentioned? Maybe you wrote about it elsewhere.

Blue mustard is my current favorite weed. It’s an annual in the Brassiceae family, and it grows through the winter. The leaves are delicious, and they offer three different flavors:

  • When you harvest them raw, they taste like a slightly spicy daikon radish.
  • When you cook them, they taste like spinach.
  • When you pour hot butter over them, or drop them raw into hot soup, they keep all the flavor and lose all the spiciness, and resemble a particularly nutty, delicious cabbage. (That’s my favorite way to eat them.)

This is what the plant looks like:




It’s really quite ornamental: the purple flowers are small, but pretty, and the seed pods look cool they way they stick out at all angles. They start out as a basal rosette and then get taller, and put on most of their growth in late winter and early spring. I eat the leaves all through in January, February, and March. The flowers are edible too, but they taste the same as the leaves, and the closer the plant is to flowering, the spicier it gets, so I don’t usually eat the flowers. Besides, I want all the flowers turn into seed pods.

Each seed pod has about twenty tiny square-ish tan-colored seeds, and the germination rate is outstanding – I think it’s nearly 100%!

People who like lawns tend to whine about them being a nuisance, but they really aren’t. They’re not perennials; they’re annuals. And the basal rosettes are distinctive and easy to recognize. That makes them easy to eradicate if you decide you aren’t interested in them.

I can get way more food out of a kale plant than a blue mustard plant, because blue mustard plants are much smaller, but I get about a 1% survival rate with kale seeds, and basically a 100% survival rate with blue mustard seeds, so I eat approximately equal quantities of both through the winter.

I’ve put seeds of blue mustard into the Serendipity Seed Swap in the past, and I’m sure I’ll put more in next time it’s my turn. I have loads! And they’re tasty, and so easy to grow!

I’m not sure if they’re allelopathic. It’s possible they are – that’s common for Brassiceaes – but I’ve never seen signs of that causing huge problems, if they are.

I can pretty much just pick an empty space, sprinkle a hundred or so blue mustard seeds into it, and be confident I’ll have blue mustard popping up thickly in that area for me to harvest in abundance in a few months.

One of my favorite winter crops. They’re so easy, and they taste great.

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Emily, it is such a joy to read your posts. How grateful I am to be able to learn from your experience. Wow, you have so much information in this post! To begin with, I am getting some Austrian peas asap to test in different areas this winter.
The greatest success in this long experiment has been (in my opinion :wink: ) your exemplary perseverance and the incredible amount of things you have learned.

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Hello all wheat growers,
I woud like to share my own experience in the intent that not everybody is discouraged.
I have been growing wheat for 5 years now, with no machines.
my bed sizes are arround 50 - 100 square meters
I was keeping most of my grain for accumulation until I had enough to go to the nearby miller because he was OK to run his mill for my grain as soon as I have 10kg to test.
In the mean time, I started eating some whole, soaked and cooked and I just love that.
More recently , I was put in contact with someone who owns a domestic electric flour mil and he agrees that I can come to his place with 2-3 kg of grain for a test.

About harvest , threshing and vanning, I progressively come to the good process, which implies to harvest the full stems, with a secial dented scickle at about 5-10cm above ground. I arrange them in sheafs while harversting . It makes transportation, storage and threshing very easy.

for threshing, I install a couple of sheets on beams or whatever 1.5 m -high structure and other sheets on the floor. I put a small table in the middle of the room and I bang the sheafs on the table very vigorously (but even kid can do that, the key if the speed) .

I find this process extremely easy and quick like 3-5 bangs for each sheaf and you can check the heads are empty and you can hear no more grains are jumping.

then for vanning I wait for a good windy day and I use two (clean) garbage bins, big ones. The wheat grain is heavy so it is very easy to separate with this method.

Every year I find this activity more rewarding. The time I spend is diminishing every year (yes it was too much a the beginning).

the harvest is 100-200 g / square meter depending on sowing conditions (birds, rain…) so I know I would need much more large a piece of land than 100sq meter to satisfy my annual wheat consumption, but nevertheless, I love that.

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It’s great to read all the various experiences on here so we can learn from eachother!

Blue mustard seems like a good plant to have around. I don’t think I’ve ever encountered it on my foraging. I’ll have to look into if it grows in the southeast. :grin:

Thank you, Harlé! That is very useful information. It is definitely heartening to hear that it’s gotten easier for you over the course of years.

It sounds like you grow wheat in a monoculture, not a polyculture. Is that correct?

Harvesting wheat was quite easy for me – I just grabbed a pair of scissors and snipped off the stalks. That part took only about half an hour per 6 foot square bed. It can probably go a lot faster, but that was fast enough for me that I had no complaints.

Threshing was way more time-consuming for me. I disocovered that, even when I smashed the wheat hard against something to break up the seed heads, I still wound up with a lot of seeds still stuck to stems. I had to manually remove all of them.

Winnowing was the worst part of all. Nearly all of the wheat was still encased in its chaff, and the chaff was quite plentiful. I grew an awnless wheat that was supposed to be easy to winnow, and I think it was easy, because the seeds fell out of the chaff very easily with any pressure applied. (By contrast, I got a few seed heads with seeds that wouldn’t come out of the chaff, no matter how hard I rubbed; I definitely didn’t save those to replant.)

The problem with winnowing was that, even with the aid of a fan (which drastically sped things up!), even with a lot of experience winnowing other seeds (such as peas), wheat seeds were light enough and the chaff plentiful enough that I had to basically rub every handful of seeds between my hands and then pour it in front of a fan at a precise (very low) speed at a precise distance in order to blow away all the chaff and not the seeds. Usually I had to do this four or five times per handful of seeds. It was the most time consuming part.

It was a mildly unpleasant task, too, because the little bits of chaff blew everywhere and coated everything. My hands also got sore from continually holding handfuls of seeds mixed with little bits of chaff (which sometimes had mildly sharp edges) for hours to winnow things.

How do you handle the winnowing? I found the wheat grain very lightweight, so I couldn’t use wind to separate it from the chaff – it needed to be poured in front of a fan at a very precise, low speed. Whenever I tried using wind, it was disaster, because wind’s inconsistent; it doesn’t keep a precise speed. Every time I tried to use wind, either the chaff wouldn’t blow away, or the wheat berries would blow away with it. The only solution that worked was using a fan indoors (because I couldn’t risk wind getting involved if I worked outdoors), which meant getting chaff all over my living room.

Tips and tricks from someone who’s done this successfully and who is happy with the results they are getting is very helpful! Thanks! :blush:

Again, in my experience the difficulty is based on the variety. Emer is impossible. Khorasan wheat (Kamut) just about fell out of the sheath and the kernels were heavy enough to do the fan technique easily. Hard red wheat was somewhere in the middle.

That’s very interesting. My variety was Georgia Gore, which I chose because it was an awnless winter wheat. Are there any awnless winter wheats that are really easy to thresh and winnow? If so, I’d be willing to give that a try.

I’d suggest you pick a wheat based on the criteria you like, and just start it in the fall. See what happens. None of the varieties I worked with were technically “winter” wheat, but they all did fine under those conditions. The fewer criteria you have to match, the better.

Oh, really? I assumed the only way I could grow a wheat variety through the winter was if it said it was winter wheat. I haven’t tried Khorasan because it said it was a spring wheat. Have you tried that as a winter wheat? If so, did it would work? If so, maybe it would be worth trying!

It was one of the first I tried. White, red, emer, Kamut (khorasan), and I think one other older variety before I stopped playing with them.

It was a long time ago, but as I remember Emer was the only one that didn’t emerge well in the spring, and that might easily have been my own error. I had enough to test the threshing process, anyway.

Khorasan was one of the easiest, both to grow and process.

My thought is that someone had to have tried growing through the winter the first time.

Just a few details

  • how do you know your wheat was dry enough to be threshed ? (I have mine stay in the barn a few more days or weeks before threshing just to be sure) it has to be hard under the tooth.
  • I also harvested just heads some years and threshing was awfully long. I tried the african method with a pestle, banging down the heads in the garbage bin, much better. I had the kids do some of it , it was fun. But 2 years ago, I bought these special dented scickles and it completely changed not only the harvest, but also the threshing.

about monoculture: yes in a given bed I sow only wheat, I find it easier to sow, to watch, to harvest, and I love the movement of the heads under the wind in may-june ! you don’t see that if you have small rows or too many different things in the same bed, ha! ha! .

My wheat it a very diverse and dynamic population, originated in the works of cesare ceccarelly. (named FURAT population)

About selection : the first years I tended to keep for resowing only the grains that came out first during the threshing. Now I find that all grains comes out of the heads easily. It could be the effect of selection but it could also be the effect of better threshing process. Note that my wheat has very long stems so it is easy to give it speed.

About winnowing : the key to easy winnowing it the threshing. When I look a my old bags of grain from 2023, there are still about 10% of grains with the shaff. Not a problem because at that time I was not yet eating it. Now if I look at this year’s bag, there are much less.

Some part of myself knew that growing grain for food with no machines was not going to be easy right at the beggining. so I was ready to insits for a few years . I a glad I did.

I was lucky enough to obtain this FURAT population that nobody could tell me if it was winter or spring so I sowed 1kg as winter and 1kg as spring , they both produced something, 2 subpopulations, I grow them separately.