Physalis Hybridization/ Breeding

Shouldn’t the plants be much larger now? They still look the same as in the first image. I’m sorry but I’m just skeptical because it would be too good to be true for these to be hybrids. The flowers look EXACTLY like tomatillo flowers, not like any other species. They are the exact same color and the anthers and stigma are exactly the same as in tomatillos. The growth habit is also exactly like the growth habit of Tomatillos and I’ve had edema in normal Tomatillos under a grow lights multiple times.
If these are truly hybrids I’d be thrilled to get some pictures on their growth habit… etc..
It would also be interesting to know what Physalis longifolia looks like(your plants) in comparasion

Here are some Tomatillo flowers from my patch so you can see the similarity:

As I said there are other flowers that look different. You’re allowed to be skeptical, but I’m not sure I can convince you if you the cold stratification requirement, complete male sterility, and images of the F1s are not enough. Here are photos of the F1 that these seeds came from Hybrid of frost-resistant groundcherry and tropical tomatillo (Physalis longifolia x philadelphica) - 12 seeds

The longifolia was the mother of the F1 by the way, not tomatillo.

Don’t you have an image of the mature plants? It would be really interesting to know what the hybrids look like

I would be glad to take a photo and upload it but Im not sure it changes anything for this discussion as I’ve already described the habit and stature of the plants here. I’m not sure you would find it that interesting, because yes once again they do look very tomatillo-ish, but the interesting part is not that in itself – it’s that within the context that they aren’t able to set fruit by themselves or really hardly at all with tomatillo pollen either. The tomatillo stature in the context of longifolia cytoplasm, cold / moist requirement for seed germination, male sterility and so forth is really what’s interesting.

I’m very curious even if they look like Tomatillos. It would be also nice if you could show what the physalis longifolia looks like

There are structural features here from longifolia, such as throat pubescence of the flower and so forth. There’s interesting calyx variation as well.

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Thanks! What does physalis longifolia look like? Where do you have the seeds from? Now you can actually make out that the leaves don’t really look like tomatillo leaves(less serration, longer)

Right! I would say overall the leaves look like a mix of tomatillo and longifolia. Some have more serration but none of them have the look of pure longifolia or pure tomatillo. This is true for the flowers as well, and they both vary from one plant to the other.

Here’s a photo of my longifolia (about to flower). I didn’t make these hybrids but I got my longifolia from Wojciech as well, who used it to make them.