That’s very interesting, indeed. According to The Dorito Effect (which I just read), flavor tends to indicate higher nutrition, so my guess is that if we all keep selecting for stronger (and tastier) flavors, we’re going to wind up with more nutritious garden plants as a correlation.
That’s a really nice mix! Let us know how they grow. I’ve noticed that there are considerable variations over each year within my pea populations despite low crossing rates.
I found these legumes abandonned in a collective kitchen with no label on, and nobody was able to tell me what they are.
Could these be pisum sativum arvense ? sorry I use the latin name to be sure of what we are talking about. It is called pois rojeva in french.
I would feel so glad and lucky to have those to cultivate.
Lovely looking pea. I hope they grow for you whatever they are.
Oooh, so pretty!!
Are pisum sativum arvense also known as Austrian field peas? If so, I have some of those, and none of them look like that. They’re speckled like that, but a rainbow of colors, similar to the Wild Pea of Umbria (which has much prettier and more vibrant colors). It’s possible they’re Austrian field peas, but if so, there aren’t any like that in my population.
I have no idea what those are, but I’m stoked that you have those to cultivate. They’re awesome. I hope they grow well and produce yummy peas for you!
pisum sativum arvense is the latin name I found for wild peas of Umbria, or Roveja peas . do you have a picture of your austrian field peas ?
Aha! Duh, of course. That’s why you posted about them in this thread. Occasionally I’m observant.
I don’t have a picture of mine on hand, but this is where I bought them, and there’s a picture of the seeds there:
That’s accurate to how mine look. A range of colors, but mostly medium to dark green. There are speckles on them, but not as pronounced as yours, and none of them are light-colored. Yours are much prettier.
I looked at pictures and austrian fiel pea seems similar to what Ray posted earlier in this thread, more than to mine. This looks like a police investigation
Are you sure they’re peas? They look very similar to some of my lupine seeds.
no at all, I am not sure , they are completely new to me. do you have a picture of your lupine ? mine are much bigger and more oval shaped and white so I did not think lupine was a candidate.
Well, I will try to grow them and see what the plant looks like, but I am told lupines don’t grow if a certain bacteria is not present in the soil. so we shall see.
I’m out of state right now but will try to remember to post photo when I’m back
Ha ha ha! That’s it, we need a police lineup for the pea seeds! Anybody have one?
Those are very beautiful. I hope you can grow them out and seed increase them. Pisum sativum arvense refers to the common pea. There are other species of peas, like Pisum abyssinicum, but I’ve not seen any that are white and speckled black. I think some cicerchia are white and black speckled but it is uncommon.
@Lowell_McCampbell tank you ! So would you validate that these are peas ?
just for verification: to my understanding, pisum sativum sativum is the common bean (modern), pisum sativum arvense is the rojava bean (the old one) aka wild pea of umbria .
whatever they are, I will first cook some of them and if edible, cultivate the rest
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I understand Pisum sativum arvense is the common pea, including roveja. The common bean is Phaseolus vulgaris.
They do look a lot like Anphlo’s picture of the lupine seeds. I hope you’re able to grow them!
I read some of this thread a while back and had it in the back of my head. I just bought a last minute seed order for things i need more of or forgot, and remembered to snag a packet of these! I am so excited to try soup peas!
Have anyone tried to cross roveja into a pea population?
“(…) The objective of the present paper was to assess its genetic structure using 62 morphological traits and five microsatellites. As many as 55 traits showed significant differences with the control entries (P. sativum subsp. sativum var. arvense and var. sativum). We tested P. sativum Simple Sequence Repeats (SSRs) for their transferability to “Roveja”, and found that only 12 out of 35 performed well. (…)”
I did this past spring and will find out next year, or sooner, if anything happened. I had issues with pod setting, and it made me wonder if the more common pea I was trying to cross it with was incompatible. I think @isabelle was right earlier in the thread about roveja being different from common pea, which I did not understand at the time. It is hard to know what is what and roveja may even be a composite of different pea species. When I was looking through the USDA germplasm last year to select some different pea species to grow out, I found several species that have peas with similar patterns and colors to roveja.
Unfortunately, while I was crossing this past year, my workflow wasn’t great and I did not label the crosses well. Some crosses also got buried in the growth as they kept flowering and growing, so I lost a few possibilities. Bumble bees will often visit the roveja flowers, but I think the chance of them crossing with each other is low once the flower has blossomed. Typically peas have already pollinated themselves before they are fully open.
I am growing a few accessions from the germplasm this year of different pea species and would like to make crosses with roveja and other peas, but I am unsure about their pollen acceptance.
I will look forward to your updates! Whenever down the line.