Lets do the "Brassica oleraceae" effect to other crops!

[VeggieSavage (Professor Porcupine)]

@UnicornEmily

Looking at the philogenetic tree, Brassica juncea, rapa, napus, and oleracea are a separate clade from Eruca vesicaria and Raphanus sativus

Indeed, but Brassica nigra is still a Brassica right? Exactly It’s way down there , what is it doing there. Well it seems very different from Brassica rapa & Brassica oleracea yet we know Brassica juncea is a hybrid between Brassica nigra x Brassica rapa, so what is going on in that phylogenic tree ?

I suspect the phylogenic Tree isn’t counting the Hybrids, I read my Phylogenic Trees paired with what I know is crossable. Thus it’s theoretically possible that the entire tribe is crossable, including Sea Kale (Crambe spp.) & Arugula (Eruca sativa).

@UnicornEmily

I think you could claim the Brassica genus is a species complex and still exclude radishes (which, as far as I know, can’t cross with Brassica species – correct me if I’m wrong) . . .

Brassica x Raphanus is possible (known as *Brassicoraphanus"), it’s among the only inter-generic crosses to have created fertile genus of it’s own. That’s why that Brassica Triangle I showed you had Raphanus making hybrids with all the other Brassica species.

This is actually the study the Triangle Came from.
Developing Stable Cultivar through Microspore Mutagenesis in ×Brassicoraphanus koranhort, Inter-Generic Allopolyploid between Brassica rapa and Raphanus sativus.pdf (482.2 KB)

I think the Brassicoraphanus Landrace was one of the first posts I made on GoingToSeed Forums.

Radish x Mustard Landrace (Brassica x Raphanus = Brassicorapahnus)

I was MIND BLOWN when I found out you Could Hybridize Radish with Kale! 2 Completly Differen genera can Hybridize and thus Introduce New Genetics into either Radish or Brassica Landraces. The Cross makes a new Genus, the Brassicoraphanus genus. This was discovered because a Soviet Agronomist Georgi Dimitrievich Karpenchenko made it happen using Raphanus sativus and Brassica oleracea. F1 Hybrids were mostly sterile but a few made true seeds giving rise to the allopolypolid hybrid Brassicoraphanu…

Yea Canola is a much better name than Rapeseed. I think Rapeseed should go down as in the Top 10 Worst Common Names of all time.

@UnicornEmily

Apparently you’ve found me another weird plant I want to grow, and I don’t know where to buy seeds of it. Nooooooooooo!

Yea it’s something I’ve been trying to figure out myself. So far the best I got is to order the fruits from China Directly as the fruits contain seeds inside. Idk how to order fruit from China to U.S. & it going thru customs safely. The other best bet is to find another gardener growing them.