Mare's island garden adaptive style in Med climate

At first I thought it had those spots Tanja’s Moschata’s have. But it does look a bit like a Mixta too! Opening up will prove more of it’s origins hopefully.
Great things worked out a bit better on your super shallow soils. I’m in Spain, south Catalonia and the lady has olives and some fat sheep grazing under it. I helped her move the electric fence. It was like five cm of soil before motgerrock. She has many clovers and started a small subtropical food forest. I gave her some of the community seeds and she gave drought resistant seeds back. See telegram channel.

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They are all moschatas (or argyrosperma crosses). I have had all types you have there, but ofcourse there is somewhat limited expression of genes so all might be from someone else as well. The ones with clearly white/darkish green look like argyrosperma crosses and unless someone else has made those crosses, those are likely to be from my seeds. They have gone one cooler weather selection and those seeds that you had ripened well in cooler late summer weather. Latest to flower had under 40 days in max 20C and this year the few I had, had made viable seeds in just around 30 days with similar conditions. Those big green ones might be from nepalese moschata that I had that year. It’s not in the seedlist, but can’t be sure if had that mixed in somewhere. I definetely send some to someone. It had quite whitish bland flesh and stems were skinnier than most.

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I love your polyculture growing style! I can’t help but do the same, even if I have plan to do a row of one crop, I end up sticking other things in there too😂
It sounds like our growing conditions are very similar but yours with more extreme salt spray than we have. But I would guess the fruit trees we grow here in Mallorca would do well for your too, so if need more fruit tree seeds let me know, I’ll be happy to send you some. Black sapote grows very well here and I think my fruit will mature in a month or so…

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Thank you guys for your comments on my few squashes, it’s very helpfull.

In the meantime I’ve opened the big one - nice orange flesh and bunch of mature seeds.

Still have to open spotted ones.

I’ve narrowed the options of tried packages to this - from your information as well as from my memory (on what were my criteria choosing seeds):

  • @Tanjaeskildsen moschata grex - this is the only one I was pretty much sure I’ve chosen since we have very similar growing conditions, and anything that comes from Mallorca has great chance to succeed here too

I think that the big one would have even more orange skin mixed with green like yours if it was growing in warmer weather/had more time on the plant.
That small butternut shaped one - it wasn’t actually mature so who knows what is it’s mature flesh colour…

  • @JesseI moschata x agyrosperma - those would be spotted ones
    I distinctly remember taking your seeds and @Hugo’s mixta and thinking I’ll sow one of those two. Looking at the fruit I did think agyrosperma cross was more likely, glad you confirmed that.
    I’ll open them in few weeks, just in time to sow this year round of squash.

This is great to know! I’ll play with planting time this year, spread it through season and see what happens.

  • and small maxima grex - this is that one different plant that unfortunately didn’t make any female flowers (and fruits)

There is a small chance I’m wrong but it doesn’t matter :slight_smile:

Yeah, I’m completely unable to do ‘standard’ garden beds. I’m always adding new stuff, sometimes forgetting what I’ve sown where, and inevitably end up with a jungle :face_with_tears_of_joy:

Yes, I would love to play more with fruits. And try black sapote! It would be great to add a fruit that matures before low/no rain period starts. Is it self-fertile or do I need to have few trees around? There’s come conflicting info on the web about that.

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My black sapote is self fertile as I only have one tree growing in a pot on the roof, but maybe plant a few seeds just in case. I direct seeded avocados in clumps of three with the intention to cull the trees with the worst fruit or just to have back ups in case some die. You could do the same with the sapote.
Ill let you know when they ready, thry need to be sown straight away as they can’t dry out.

Mine is at most 25% argyrosperma and most of them aren’t green/white spotted. So you can only be quite sure that the green/white spotted are from those, bot others might aswell be and the traits just aren’t showing. Green/whote spotted might also disappear completely only to reappear in later generations. Cucurbits cross so freely that if they just have a good change of doing so, all parent species/varieties are likely to be in the population in perpituity in some shape or form if there isn’t any drastic bottle necks.