A bit worrying if the case.
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Thatâs a bit everywhere. Every country has their own style. In France it used to be , subsidize them, encourage them to exploit the land better using chemical fertilizers and sprays, offer loans, get them endebted more and more. Open the borders for cheaper products from third worlders exploiting monocultures. So farmers were eating their neighbor farms.
Rince, repeat. Then now they burry them in paperwork, things that took half a day to fill in on paper now take three weeks on the not working governmental website. Deadline during hay season. And now that this system has destroyed lands theyâre âsaving the environmentâ, every felled tree, they see with the satellites, leads to a letter and a fine, unless youâre big and in the club, then you can take whole hedgerows out, suck up all the water by digging wells. Etdcetera, etcetera.
It leads to a French farmer suiciding every day. I could go on and on and on with examples. Itâs disgusting what theyâre doing. But city folk do not identify with farmers. Farmers are polluters and weâd be better off without them.
People do not see their own role, farmers will produce environmentally friendly foods if the people pay⌠End of story. But since global recession with gadgets has hit , people are too poor to buy organic. Organic market is struggling everywhere.
The plan is to get everybody off the land, into the cities, farm vertically, but might be hit by censorship if i say more, and probably environmentalists educated by the state will harshly attack my point of view.
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Youâve pretty much summed it up. Very sad
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HugoâŚthank you for speaking out. This is well said, and should be repeated in more places. The city folk need to know the reality.
How to relate to them, get past the statist conditioning, and share our stories in a way that it can be accepted?
One thing I do know is that people love a good story. It is what captures and holds their attention, especially if they can relate in some way to the main character, or âheroâ. Any part of a good story has challenges, antagonists, and eventually breakthroughsâŚ
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Iâve been with the farmers to Rungis, which is the worldâs biggest food station. We were going to block it. It was a joke. We were ten men without tractors by foot against an army of cops. We met at a parking lot, there where Paris farmers too, you know. These guys were of Algerian descent, but we only knew each other from whatsapp groups, so people didnât know they were colored. That was a weird thing because some of the group were nationalists. But being all farmers fighting for our rights was stronger than race division and those guys knew the way in the city. When we arrived there the cops freaked out completely, one turned white and several were immediately phoning paniced. They thought the farmers and banlieu had united.
The state had hired undercover actors pretending to be of the Rungis center, which is like a city block. The press filmed us.
The next day it was on the journals that the farmers had blocked Rungis with their tractors. They had filmed the road blocks on the ring around Paris of the farmers and made a montage that it looked like if they were blocking the food center. They made a big fuss on the television and Macron went to Brussels and demanded we get a mobile European brigade that can handle tractors. So protesting is a thing of the past.
Anyway, all these so called protests are led by the FNSEA which is an organisation which is infiltrated by the industrialists. If they demonstrate, tractors get permission to go to some government buildings and make a big mess. They make a fire in front of the gate and then go home. But if farmers go without the FNSEA theyâre not protected and police attack.
The FNSEA uses the farmers as storm troops, so what happened is that the government socalled sucumbed to the farmers demands. What they got is the right to use more pesticides and artificial nitrates and the right to use a bit more of the soils they normally have to let in rest. The FNSEA sold the farmers these concessions as a huge victory, while most farmers on the road were cattlefarmers, who hardly use pesticides and fertilizers. But because it was calving time it was the end for most farmers protest.
80% of French farmers make less money than the minimum wage for working 7 days a week and never having a holiday.
People do want to buy French, but itâs too expensive. People do want to buy organic for health sake, but canât afford it.
Every new environmental measure makes French farming practices less competitive, at the same time government makes it tax free to import food from far away places that have zero restrictions on environmental damages. People are scrambling for these cheap poisonous products, because everybody is trying to make ends meet. On top most of those foods are flown in by airplane. So in fact every environmental measure is a 100% countereffective for the environment.
Weâre up against pure evil and itâs high time people recognize this, but most prefer to only fight for the little group they belong to and saying that the âother groupâ is satan. Weâre not being governed, weâre being manipulated.
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I donât know. Oregonâs law sounds pretty reasonable to me. There might be a problem with overzealous enforcement, but the court cases should settle that out in the next year or two.
With all due respect Christopher. I think itâs horrible if the state tramples the rights of itâs citizens itâs supposed to protect. Imagine having to pay lawyers and be insecure about for your farmâs future for years.
In Holland we had the case of the state removing children from their parents, because theyâd messed up their tax payments. Those children have been removed for so long now, 1200 of them that the law states itâs in the childâs interest to not disturb the current arrangement. Children were mainly of illiterate naturalized immigrants. They followed just laws!
Overzealous officials i do applaud sincerely when going after the guilty people who caused a million death in the Iraq war or when going after the perpetrators of the child sex abuse case on the Epstein island. However, state officials are less energetic to follow the laws when the powerful are targetted.
Laws for they and not for me it seems.
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I havenât reviewed the video yet but I do know they have aggressive schooling and support for new and small farms.
https://smallfarms.oregonstate.edu/
We have expanded our âcottage food lawsâ
But you do need to be good at selling direct as a small farm, as most retailers want organic and other certified foods.
Summary:
In the YouTube video titled âOREGON URGENTLY SHUTS DOWN SMALL FARMS EN MASSE âTo Protect The Peopleââ, the speaker discusses how small farms in Oregon are being shut down on a large scale due to new regulations. The farms are being targeted for various reasons, including water conservation and groundwater protection. The speaker mentions that satellite technology is being used to identify non-compliant farms, and two laws are being enforced: one redefines a Confined Animal Feeding Operation (CAFO) to include anyone with a barn or facility with a gravel or concrete floor, and another requires infrastructure improvements for CAFOs. Small farmers, even those with only a few acres of land, are being shut down for not having the necessary permits or infrastructure, despite previously being allowed to use water from their wells for irrigation. The speaker criticizes these regulations as a âwar on small farmsâ and expresses concern that even small-scale operations could be considered CAFOs and subject to these regulations. The speaker also raises concerns about the involvement of the dairy industry and lobbyists in the changes to the definition of a small farm. The farms are being shut down under the guise of water protection, with neighbors reporting violations and satellite imagery being used to identify non-compliant farms. The speaker expresses concern that this trend could spread to other states, potentially limiting access to fresh food and infringing on peopleâs right to farm.
00:00:00 In this section of the YouTube video titled âOREGON URGENTLY SHUTS DOWN SMALL FARMS EN MASSE âTo Protect The Peopleââ, the speaker discusses how Oregon has been shutting down small farms and market gardens on a large scale, using satellite technology to identify and send cease and desist letters to farms. The farms are being shut down in the name of water conservation and groundwater protection. The speaker mentions two laws being used to shut down these farms: one redefines a Confined Animal Feeding Operation (CAFO) to include anyone who has a barn or facility with a gravel or concrete floor, and another law requires infrastructure improvements for CAFOs. An example is given of Sarah King, who owns Godspeed Hollow Farm in Newberg, Oregon, and has been shut down for having a milking stand, which the state considers a CAFO. The law is being enforced in the state of Oregon and has already shut down some farms, with an injunction on the definition of the law until it can be heard in court. The law is not just targeting raw milk producers but anyone who produces eggs.
00:05:00 In this section of the YouTube video titled âOREGON URGENTLY SHUTS DOWN SMALL FARms EN MASSE âTo Protect The Peopleââ, the speaker discusses how small farmers in Oregon are being impacted by new regulations. The first rule mentioned is a permitting process for chicken farmers with concrete floors, which is too burdensome for small farmers and is part of an ongoing court case. The second rule concerns water usage. While farmers can legally harvest and use rainwater without a permit, they must have a permit for groundwater if using it for commercial purposes. Small farmers, even those with half an acre of land, are being shut down for not having the necessary permits, despite previously being allowed to use water from their wells for irrigation. The state considers all water in the ground a public resource, and the exemption for commercial use does not include irrigation of land. The speaker criticizes these regulations as a âwar on small farmsâ and expresses concern that even small-scale operations could be considered confined animal feeding operations (CAFOs) and subject to these regulations.
00:10:00 In this section of the YouTube video titled âOREGON URGENTLY SHUTS DOWN SMALL FARms EN MASSE âTo Protect The Peopleââ, the speaker discusses the shutdown of small farms in Oregon due to new regulations. The farms, which include chicken houses and market gardens, are being required to meet expensive infrastructure standards for wastewater management. The speaker criticizes this as an overreach and an unfair targeting of small farmers who do not produce significant amounts of runoff. The speaker also suggests that the dairy industry and lobbyists may be involved in the changes to the definition of a small farm. The farms are being shut down under the guise of the law, with neighbors reporting violations and satellite imagery being used to identify non-compliant farms. The speaker expresses concern that the government is using water protection as a pretext to shut down farms across the country, contributing to the loss of farms since 2000.
00:15:00 In this section of the YouTube video titled âOREGON URGENTLY SHUTS DOWN SMALL FARMS EN MASSE âTo Protect The Peopleââ, the speaker discusses the increasing loss of small farms in Oregon due to water rights being revoked, primarily for the protection of groundwater and trout. The speaker argues that small farmers, who take environmental protection seriously, are being unfairly targeted and have their resources taken away, including their ability to operate businesses and provide fresh food to the public. The speaker expresses concern that this trend could spread to other states, potentially limiting access to fresh food and infringing on peopleâs right to farm.
00:20:00 In this section of the YouTube video titled âOREGON URGENTLY SHUTS DOWN SMALL FARMS EN MASSE âTo Protect The Peopleââ, the speaker discusses the recent shutdown of small farms in Oregon due to water protection laws. The speaker expresses interest in the situation and its potential implications, suggesting that other states may follow suit. They encourage viewers to familiarize themselves with the relevant laws and stay tuned for future updates.
Ground water is pretty well protected and is described in the following video Oregon water use
Rain water is approved for irrigation and storage though.
Here is a blog post regarding CAFO bill which may have been brought up in the primary video: Factory farm
But where is the actual legislation being used? Lots of blog posts, some of which include farmers who have been sent cease and desist orders because they have as little as a cement or gravel pad where they milk two or three animals. The definition of CAFO seems to have been redefined as âwhatever we want it to meanâ and small farmers are being targeted, apparently because they donât have the resources to fight it.
The most recent thing Iâve seen on it is that the state has issued instructions to local law enforcement agencies not to target some big category of small operations including the woman with three cows.
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The government making new regulations to put more small farms out of business so that huge corporate AG companies have a bigger share of the market, and can continue poisoning the food at will. The only thing the government is good at is turning everything they touch into shit.
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Here in France we have big droughts in summer, youâd think ecologists and government would promote the private construction of dams and the likes. Nope! Au contraire! To file for a permit, one must fill in a questionare as big as a phonebook full of questions like âwas it already a dam in Napoleonic times?â. If one answer is wrong, itâs a no.
But the government do want mega bassins, gigantic open air swimming pools of a few hectares sucking up all the underground water of an area, blocking all streams and sources from flowing. The water in these industrial pools evaporates at a frightening rate in summer and they poison the algae. The people have to get on a list to buy their water back, but big ag has priority.
They want to pepper France with a ten thousand of these beauties.
There has been a gigantic protest over this. But the media has mostly ignored it.
Another plan is building gigantic desalination plants at the coast powered by nuclear.
Dams are bad for the environment they claim and a danger to the public.
The bureaucrats of Paris have asked the Union of cereal farmers to postpone harvesting during the Olympic games by a few month because the dust filled air would hinder the athletes.
Thereâs a complete class/generation of people that live in a fantasy bubble.