Super value MIXES for europeans to create grexes

This applies to the European context.

For sure the best thing we have to do is to share with each other, and notably within the EU serendipity seed swap, then spread locally, etc. but… Imagine it’s april, you live somewhere in Europe, let’s say in Poland, you just fall in love with this forum and this community, the overall concept of landrace gardening / adaptation agriculture, and and and… the EU serendipity seed swap just arrived in Portugal, and will have to go through Spain, then France, then Croatia, then Belgium, then Germany, then eventually Poland. So you understand that, if you wait for this seed train, for this year, it will be to late for starting your first landrace experiments, your first local adaptations! Because you have no seed, and the last seed swaps in your place were in february… You have a few euros in your pockets. Then you come accross a “low cost grexes for europeans” post on a forum and 15 days later you start landracing carrots, kales, etc…

So while I was searching for a few things using the database, (Framacalc - tableur collaboratif en ligne) I listed very few super value offers to make grexes to start with. Here it goes:

You will find mixes also, but less good value, at different stores like semaille.com (Belgium), haalmeeruitjetuin.be (Belgium), deaflora.de (Germany), bobby-seeds.com (Germany), merakiseeds.com (Greece), vreeken.nl (Holland), jansenzaden.nl (Holland), valeyracexotics.com (Hungary), gardenseedsmarket.com (Poland), kcb-samen.ch (Switzerland), etc.

Beware than when a seller says that he says he sells a “collection” or an “assortment”, it is that in one box he puts each individual variety. So you pay for each individually minus 10% or so, which not extremely good value.

You will find loads of other informations in the directory, if willing to find specific species, traits, etc. Carrot mixes are the most frequently sold.

And also you may search for local community seed banks… with free or very good value offers… Like mine: the local group of “Maison de la Semence” (House of the Seeds), specialised in vegetables. Catalogue (french):

CATALOGUE_Thomas Community seed bank Agrobioperigord2020.pdf (2.6 MB)
That would not coast you a penny. Just you will have to follow the community guidelines,. In general you take some seeds and you return some at the end of the season. But it’s been designed for keeping mostly “pure” lines, i.e. not landracing.

Of course, if you have plenty of money you can also buy many varieties individually… if so you can use the directory to find your nearest shop and assemble the grex you want. Then anyway, see you next year for seed swapping :wink:

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https://permaseminka.cz/ I got the Carol Deppe ‘Sweet Meat’ squash and some wild tomatoes last year (shipped to Finland)

Anyway, Thomas, thanks for all the resources and videos you have been posting lately. It’s all really cool. I am trying to keep up!

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That is great news Matthew! So I hope to get my hands on Joseph’s pepo landrace. It will be like party time! I already have a few of Joseph’s tomato lines provided by @Justin and @JesseI through @Hugo, but I am more of a squash guy :wink:
Their other seeds look impressive. Like this 3 color determinate tomato mix, rather unstable, and making huge yields https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=b3jrIfEa1n4
Please have a look at this short video… never seen a harvest like that !

I may slow down publishing a bit in future weeks: got a new greenhouse to finish and many things to get sorted out quickly: tree sap is already flowing here.

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:eyes:
Whoa!

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Can confirm that I also ordered from permaseminka, twice, they sent to Sweden.

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@julia.dakin,

Thomas for President! :pray:

Seriously, @ThomasPicard, you are incredible.

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Thank you Cathy :slight_smile: delicate day today, so that comes a blessing. :heartbeat:

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This for you not to miss it:
Germinance is a serious seed grower and seller, invested in the Fench Network of peasant seeds (RSP), so here you won’t find any plants with possible cytoplasmic male sterility: they offer loads of quality mixes, and they list which varities are in:
When typing “mélange” in the search bar you obtain all their mixes:


then you scroll down. There is a huge choice of different flowers, then amaranths, squashes, zucchinis, beans, onions, carrots…

And then tomatoes: 11 tomato mixes!!! of all kinds: from bushy mix to beefheart mix, early mix, etc. So for all tomato lovers you can go there!
For example the “early mix” with the 11 varieties listed. 3.10€ for 50 seeds. In itself this is better value than any other resseller + you know the varieties which are in the package, which is far from being always the case.
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Not a mix but an already existing and very nice moden landrace of patisson created by Pierre Dorand from L’Aubépin
Graines Patisson salamandre - Semences biologiques.

Also a sweet corn modern landrace, bred from Arc-en-Ciel Inca of Kokopelli, itself being an evolving population like Astronomi Domine, created from the asembling of tens or thousands of varieties.

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Citation So I hope to get my hands on Joseph’s pepo landrace. It will be like party time!

Thomas you search pepo “lofthouse Zuccini landrace” or “Lofthouse winter squash acorn delicata grex” ? if it’s the second…it’s the party time. :partying_face: :tada: :mirror_ball:
we have it in our community stock. I have to grow it to multiply it. I will look for a field to acceuillir it away from any zucchini what will be the hardest.

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Yes it is the second one https://permaseminka.cz/2183-large_default/lofthousova-zimni-tykev.jpg :slight_smile: received some seeds about a month ago. Will grow them with my grex, probably growing them in the center of my patch…

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I have the strain from buffalo seeds USA, we can compare and match the genetics that followed different paths.

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