Not that I know of…and most desert plants that have tasty pods will have thorns.
Yeah, I’ve noticed. (Wry laugh.) This is why I’m so excited about carob. Even though I’ll have to keep it in my greenhouse to stay alive, it’s a thornless nitrogen fixer with delicious fruit. I must have it!
Awesome! I’d love to get some seeds. PM me! I’m sure there’s something I have that you’d like to get too!
Oh there’s incredible amount of Wild Edibles only found in that area! Have you done much Wild Edibles Foraging in Oklahoma? Prairie Turnip (Ediomelum esculentum) & Purple Poppy Mallow (Callirhoe involucrata) should be easy to find there. Lot of another amazing Prarie wild edibles may also be found there too!
AMAZING! Do you suspect it could be Rugosa rose (Rosa rugosa)? I’d love to get seeds of those!
Yours look very similar to Rosa rugosa. Here’s what Rosa rugosa fruits look like.
Nice! Did they taste good?
OOh! You’ve got some amazing Wild Edibles for sure! I’ve never encountered a Wild Blueberry before.
I haven’t. I’m down here for work, so most of my time is spent doing that. I have been doing some work-related walks through the pastures here, and have identified a few random flowers, milkweeds, some silver nightshade, etc. but haven’t taste tested anybody.
That fruit looks very close to what I had. It’s possible they could be Rugosa. I don’t think I have any pics of the plants themselves. I plan to go visit them in two weeks when I’m back home.
I honestly haven’t tried them. They were growing wild on the property we lived at last year, and I didn’t have the foresight to gather them while we were there. I assumed we’d be there again this year.
I think our friends’ property down the hill from us has some though, so I can still gather them if need be. The town’s park might have them on the outskirts as well if I remember correctly.
When you visit, take some pictures & I can ID the rose species for you! But as a hint, I don’t think there is any other species of Rose that has hips that get that big, so I’m almost certain it is Rosa rugosa.
I’ve heard they taste better when slightly bletted (When they become a deeper Red color that’s somewhat translucent & not firm). The same thing applies to Multiflora rose, surprisingly it’s the Best Tasting Species of Rosehip I’ve tried when bletted, tasting like Tomato x Rosehip Candy. I simply eat them raw while I suck on them, spitting out the seeds to save & being mindful of the seed hairs.
I hope this helps you pick the best Rosehip fruits!
Smart! Parks are often where I forage for! I know the Rugosa Rose is a Somewhat Common Landscaping Rose, so chances of you finding it are relatively high.
Oh, my response was toward your comment about the sumac. The rosehips are delightful and sweet when they are soft, yes. ![]()
Ha… ooops ![]()
Hmm… so perhaps this “bletting” applies to every rosehip species? Perhaps that’s when the real flavor kicks into gear.
It’s certainly possible. Crabapples, firethorns, mountain ashes, and heck of a lot of other tiny pome fruits taste best harvested after quite a few snows. Rose hips are known for being the same way. My neighbor’s Rosa canina bush has hips that taste best harvested around late December.
A little true, I’ve noticed some of the wild Multiflora rose (Rosa multiflora) ripen their fruits way before frost with the same softness I expect however it is often because of cool weather, but it seems a frost is not strictly required. I’ve learned that What matters is the fruits blet.
But different species of Roses can work entirely differently. I can only say from personal experience, as I’ve only encountered Multiflora roses & Ornamental roses (That sometimes make hips which ripen poorly).
I drove by the grocer and they have ripped all the roses (and false blue indigo) out of the landscaping. ![]()
What a tragedy. I’ll plant some of my saved seed to get some new future mothers growing.
I harvested some of the honeylocust pods and have seed set aside now for this endeavor. They’ll likely end up in the freezer for now.
, dang that’s just sad! Why would they do such a thing? At least you managed to save some seeds.
It was pretty scraggly looking most of the time. It’s all just flat mulch right now. I’ll check back on my visits home to see if they plant anything new and interesting.
May just be a standard landscaping update, but with the roses there’s a good chance they got the Rose Rosette Disease and if so the removal was a good thing.
That makes sense, does rose rosette disease affect the wild roses like Rosa multiflora? If that Rosa rugosa got diseased, I wouldn’t want seeds from it anyways as to not continue the susceptibility in the next generation.
Yes all roses are susceptible unfortunately.
They have been working for years to breed an RRD resistant rose variety but so far nothing has been released.
It has been bad enough that the landscaping industry discourages planting roses in urban settings and they are now seen as 1-2 year plants.
Of course they still make lots of money selling roses, and then more money ripping them out a year later!
Dang that sucks, I guess it’s time to Graft my Roses onto Raspberries & Blackberries if that’s gonna be the case. Rubus spp. aren’t susceptible to it right?
What wild species were they working with? If Literally every species of Rose is susceptible, then what’s the point? Does that mean we have to go outside the Rosa genus if we want resistance? I find Multiflora rose all the time in the woods, with no damage, makes delicious hips, why can’t other rose be grafted to it?
Not that I know of, but I’d be more concerned about the graft creating a bridge for the virus to jump to those species.
I’m not sure on which specific species they have tried. I know they have looked into a wide range.
It has also wrecked many large heirloom/antique rose collections.
I would guess there are many regional differences in the occurrence and spread of the virus. If I remember correctly it is spread by insects, mainly mites. I would assume it is probably worse in warmer regions.
I have found a few different healthy wild roses, but they were also in areas mostly isolated from ornamental plantings.
hmm… that is a concern. But it’s not like there is no resistance from all the diversity tho? Surely something out there has to be resistant, other wise the entire genus would’ve died out long ago.
hmm… perhaps the roses were too old, virus & diseases will come & go as new varieties are bred to adapt to them, like a constant cycle of war, just depends on which evolves faster. More reasons to Landrace Roses, or is the virus so deadly that even the landrace approach is pointless? I completly ignored learning about specific viruses if I can just Permaculture & landrace those problems away, like how nature does it.
It’s a relatively new (or at least previously uncommon and not widespread) disease so there has not been a lot of natural selection around it.
The plants tend to die slowly and new growth appears mutated and deformed. Very thick extra thorny stems.
Ah and I thought that was pesticide damage for spraying invasive species in the woods. I saw that kind of thing on Multiflora rose & an Orange Rust on some Black Berries, which I also thought was pesticide damage.
Oh so it also causes more extra thick thornes? Does that mean the thornless rose species are less susceptible?



